[Open Thread] Allstate 400 at The Brickyard (Indianapolis Motor Speedway)
First, the starting lineup:
| Pos | Car | Driver | Team | Time | Speed | |
| Row 1: | 1 | 48 | Jimmie Johnson | Lowe's Chevrolet | 49.515 | 181.763 |
| 2 | 8 | Mark Martin | U.S. Army Chevrolet | 49.616 | 181.393 | |
| Row 2: | 3 | 12 | Ryan Newman | alltel Dodge | 49.732 | 180.970 |
| 4 | 9 | Kasey Kahne | Budweiser/LifeLock Dodge | 49.776 | 180.810 | |
| Row 3: | 5 | 24 | Jeff Gordon | DuPont Chevrolet | 49.849 | 180.545 |
| 6 | 19 | Elliott Sadler | Stanley Dodge | 49.890 | 180.397 | |
| Row 4: | 7 | 2 | Kurt Busch | Miller Lite Dodge | 49.905 | 180.343 |
| 8 | 26 | Jamie McMurray | Crown Royal Ford | 49.911 | 180.321 | |
| Row 5: | 9 | 99 | Carl Edwards | Aflac Ford | 49.942 | 180.209 |
| 10 | 17 | Matt Kenseth | DeWalt Ford | 50.023 | 179.917 | |
| Row 6: | 11 | 88 | Dale Earnhardt Jr. | National Guard/AMP Energy Chevrolet | 50.038 | 179.863 |
| 12 | 16 | Greg Biffle | Dish Network Ford | 50.067 | 179.759 | |
| Row 7: | 13 | 42 | Juan Pablo Montoya | Wrigley's Big Red Slim Pack Dodge | 50.084 | 179.698 |
| 14 | 20 | Tony Stewart | Home Depot Toyota | 50.145 | 179.480 | |
| Row 8: | 15 | 10 | Patrick Carpentier # | Sears Auto Center/Valvoline Dodge | 50.146 | 179.476 |
| 16 | 6 | David Ragan | AAA Insurance Ford | 50.261 | 179.065 | |
| Row 9: | 17 | 83 | Brian Vickers | Red Bull Toyota | 50.303 | 178.916 |
| 18 | 29 | Kevin Harvick | Shell/Pennzoil Chevrolet | 50.319 | 178.859 | |
| Row 10: | 19 | 18 | Kyle Busch | M&M's Toyota | 50.345 | 178.767 |
| 20 | 38 | David Gilliland | freecreditreport.com Ford | 50.447 | 178.405 | |
| Row 11: | 21 | 70 | Jason Leffler | Hunt Brothers Pizza Chevrolet | 50.467 | 178.334 |
| 22 | 41 | Reed Sorenson | Target Dodge | 50.511 | 178.179 | |
| Row 12: | 23 | 11 | Denny Hamlin | FedEx Office Toyota | 50.514 | 178.168 |
| 24 | 47 | Marcos Ambrose | Little Debbie Snacks Ford | 50.524 | 178.133 | |
| Row 13: | 25 | 1 | Martin Truex Jr. | Bass Pro Shops/Cub Cadet Chevrolet | 50.568 | 177.978 |
| 26 | 84 | AJ Allmendinger | Red Bull Toyota | 50.581 | 177.932 | |
| Row 14: | 27 | 43 | Bobby Labonte | Cheerios/Totino's Dodge | 50.594 | 177.887 |
| 28 | 28 | Travis Kvapil | HITACHI Power Tools Ford | 50.622 | 177.788 | |
| Row 15: | 29 | 7 | Robby Gordon | Menards/Johns Manville Dodge | 50.676 | 177.599 |
| 30 | 00 | Michael McDowell # | Champion Mortgage Toyota | 50.678 | 177.592 | |
| Row 16: | 31 | 5 | Casey Mears | Kellogg's/CARQUEST Chevrolet | 50.698 | 177.522 |
| 32 | 31 | Jeff Burton | Prilosec OTC Chevrolet | 50.724 | 177.431 | |
| Row 17: | 33 | 44 | David Reutimann | UPS Toyota | 50.749 | 177.343 |
| 34 | 55 | Michael Waltrip | NAPA Auto Parts Toyota | 50.770 | 177.270 | |
| Row 18: | 35 | 66 | Scott Riggs | State Water Heaters Chevrolet | 50.796 | 177.179 |
| 36 | 78 | Joe Nemechek | Furniture Row Racing Chevrolet | 50.823 | 177.085 | |
| Row 19: | 37 | 15 | Paul Menard | Menards/Johns Manville Chevrolet | 50.848 | 176.998 |
| 38 | 77 | Sam Hornish Jr. # | Mobil 1 Dodge | 50.911 | 176.779 | |
| Row 20: | 39 | 96 | J.J. Yeley | DLP HDTV Toyota | 50.923 | 176.737 |
| 40 | 07 | Clint Bowyer | Jack Daniel's Chevrolet | 51.471 | 174.856 | |
| Row 21: | 41 | 22 | Dave Blaney | Caterpillar Toyota | Owner Points | |
| 42 | 01 | Regan Smith # | Principal Financial Group Chevrolet | Owner Points | ||
| Row 22: | 43 | 45 | Terry Labonte | Marathon American Spirit Motor Oil Dodge | Past Champion |
Did Not Qualify: # 21 Bill Elliott; # 08 Johnny Sauter; # 34 Tony Raines; # 50 Stanton Barrett
While Indianapolis is hallowed ground for all things auto racing, for NASCAR it's anything but optimal. Too long, very little banking. Ah well. Perhaps magic will happen anyway.
The main issue going into the race is the horrific tire wear seen yesterday. NASCAR has already declared there will be a competition yellow at Lap 10 (!) and has trucked in a bunch of tires that were already delivered to Pocono for the next race there in case they're needed. If I'm reading the info correctly, each team has been given an extra sets of tires. Probably won't be enough. Hopefully this won't be an issue in the race, but it's well nigh impossible to see how it won't be a massive headache. Kind of hard setting up for a long run if you have no confidence you won't suddenly be slammed into the outside wall. Or for that matter, set up for a short run if you have no confidence you won't suddenly be slammed into the outside wall (or slammed into by someone else inside of you who just lost a tire).
Mark Martin, in a most out of character moment, predicted he would emerge victorious today. We shall see.
Join me in the comments area.
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Wow, today I LOVE Indy...
this is the fewest mentions of Kyle Busch since, I dunno, Daytona.
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 2:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 5
Oh, that Michael Waltrip. Anything to get some on-air time.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:27 PM EDT 0 recs
I am beginning to think that Mikey needs to hang it up
or go back to Chevy.
by MindyL78 on
Jul 27, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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Competition yellow has been moved to Lap 14
Be interesting to see if there’s any noticeable wear on any of the sets being changed right now.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 10
And we’re back. I’d say and forth, but so far we haven’t seen a whole lot of that.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 13
Dale Jr. has moved up ten spots since the restart.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Or four.
Thought it said he was 23rd (he restarted 33rd).
by Diecast Dude on
Jul 27, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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It's sad to see the Petty cars driven by Labontes.
But I’d still love to see a Petty car in victory lane. If Kyle isn’t going to drive anymore, can he PLEASE annouce full time and lose Weber? Pretty please?
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 2:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Somehow, I don't think Weber is going to go anywhere.
He’s like that annoying guy at work that somehow decides that you are his buddy.
by MindyL78 on
Jul 27, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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Wonder what went wrong with Kurt Busch's car
So much for his and Kevin Harvick’s day.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Hmmm
Most cars taking on two tires only…and this is the competition caution now.
by Gravypan on Jul 27, 2008 2:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 23
Thus far, Dale Jr.’s gamble is paying off.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 25
It’s not paying off any more (tire going down).
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 2:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Drivers seeing the tires wearing out on track
has got to be nerve wracking. Who is thinking about racing when everyone is bracing himself for a sudden introduction to the wall?
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 3:04 PM EDT 0 recs
Wow.
That right rear off of Jeff Gordon’s car… yeesh. NASCAR might have to call more competition cautions.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 35
How many people right now are hoping Kyle Busch blows a tire just as long as he doesn’t take anyone else out in the process?
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 39
Seeing how strong Dale Jr.’s car is, once he’s back on the lead lap will he be able to work his way back up through the field in time to contend for the win?
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Sure
As long as he gives huge offerings to Lady Luck and the Tire Gremlin
by MindyL78 on
Jul 27, 2008 3:17 PM EDT
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Lap 45
Somebody cued the duck; Carl Edwards is making his presence known.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT 0 recs
And just as I say that, the tire gremlin chases the duck.
Good grief.
by Diecast Dude on
Jul 27, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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Lap 48
Memo to Matt Kenseth: the next time you feel a tire going down, abandon the “I’ll ride it out and see what happens” philosophy immediately.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:23 PM EDT 0 recs
What kills me is that in this day and age there are STILL radio problems
Surely there has to be a better way. Drivers not hearing spotters/crew is inexcusable.
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 3:28 PM EDT 0 recs
And open note to NASCAR
IT IS NOT GETTING BETTER!!!!!!!!!!
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 3:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 50
Meanwhile, Kyle Busch is back in the lead.
As Mindy noted, the tire wear isn’t getting any better as the race goes on and rubber is theoretically being laid down. Unfortunately, it’s being laid down in strips which doesn’t exactly address the issue.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 51
I spoke inaccurately (yeah yeah I know what else is new). Mark Martin is in the lead courtesy of having pitted a lap before the latest competition yellow when he felt a tire going down and wisely decided to not take a chance.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:34 PM EDT 0 recs
This isn't helping attendance.
Either that or the concession stands are packed—look at all the empty seats.
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 3:39 PM EDT 0 recs
I am told by a reliable source...
... ticket sales for this year’s 500 were definitely higher than for the 400.
by Diecast Dude on
Jul 27, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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Lap 66
Competition yellow (again). Dale Jr. back on the lead lap. And I’m thinking we’re not going to be seeing a whole lot more two-tire stops.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:46 PM EDT 0 recs
If NASCAR wishes to maintain a slender thread of integrity...
... they won’t bother with anything even vaguely resembling a defense of Goodyear.
Meanwhile, those howls of laughter you’re hearing are coming from assorted executives at Hoosier and Goodrich.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm betting
Smoke will reiterate his offer to give up a month’s salary to get Hossiers into Nascar.
by Gravypan on
Jul 27, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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ARRGHH!
My cable is being stupid! Hopefully, I’m not missing anything (as I sit here and stare at my blue screen!!)
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT 0 recs
There is no way NASCAR can not release the tires brought in from Pocono.
The downside is they are a different compound. Which sounds strange to say, but how the cars will handle with the different tire is a complete unknown.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 3:54 PM EDT 0 recs
I do not understand
How did NASCAR/Goodyear miss this despite… what, three years of testing the CoT?
It is getting old hearing them blame the tire issues on set-ups and weight of the car when this should not be a surprise.
by JB* on Jul 27, 2008 3:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 74
Well, that’s different… someone having a good old-fashioned engine issue. Sucks for Brian Vickers.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 4:00 PM EDT 0 recs
At this point...
Allstate may petition Nascar to rename the race the Competition Caution 400 at the Brickyard, just so they can sponsor a real race later in the year.
by Gravypan on Jul 27, 2008 4:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Good one!
Or ask for their sponsorship money back.
by Diecast Dude on
Jul 27, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Please tell me they didn't just say the tire wear is getting better...
... when we’re looking at cords from the car off Jeff Burton, who’s as smooth and non-abusive of his tires as they come.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 4:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Aughhh
In the immortal words of Charlie Brown…............Auuuuuuuugh. Thank You Mike Helton (Mr. Obvious) This is not fun! And I just became Mr. Obvious….....sigh. Go Tony? Peace, Mike.
by rockon1974 on
Jul 27, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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The Pocono tires are SOFTER?!!
Swell. This will make the last few laps even more interesting.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 4:31 PM EDT 0 recs
I really wish the team owners...
... would stop saying it’s not Goodyear’s fault.
Yes it IS their fault! They brought the wrong tire!!!
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 4:46 PM EDT 0 recs
They first showed it during the super bowl
Janet Jackson’s nipple for like 1 zillionth of a second causes all kinds of an uproar, and this guy…..this is acceptable.
by MindyL78 on
Jul 27, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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Grr.
Hello, you have reached a party line, NASCAR and Goodyear are doing everything right, attendance is up, and you are having a great time. Thank you for calling.
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 4:48 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm sure that statistic is being kept somewhere...
... and today must be obliterating the old record.
by Diecast Dude on
Jul 27, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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I know they're doing four-tire stops each time...
... but the amount of spots Jeff Gordon is losing during each CY is grating.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 5:07 PM EDT 0 recs
I heard...
Steve Letarte ask Gordon if their runs were because of the 4 tires or because the car is that good? I’m guessing Gordon elected to stay the course for the time being because on each run, he’s been able to charge back to the front….me thinks they’ll start taking two tires when there’s about 10 to 20 laps left….BTW, the record for caution laps is 47. We’re up to 45 already.
by Gravypan on
Jul 27, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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I can see the headlines now...
... “Records Fall At Brickyard!”
They will avoid saying which records, mind you…
by Diecast Dude on
Jul 27, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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Lap 135
Thus far, Denny Hamlin’s two-tire change on the most recent CY is working.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 138
Penultimate CY. And doesn’t “penultimate” sound like a word that should be more high-powered than meaning ‘second to last?’
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 5:26 PM EDT 0 recs
So did the pace car get the most laps led bonus?
and I’m wagering on a wreck really soon—the drivers are getting bored and restless.
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 5:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Lap 150
This last caution will be when every crew chief either earns or forfeits their pay.
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Checkered Flag (FINALLY!!!)
Whew! At least those last laps were intense. Way to go Jimmie!
by Diecast Dude on Jul 27, 2008 5:52 PM EDT 0 recs
He didn't win, but I'll take it.
He finished in front of Kyle Busch. That makes my day.
by MindyL78 on Jul 27, 2008 6:05 PM EDT 0 recs





